Reporter Masha Gessen talks to Russians living in America and elsewhere, about lists they’ve been put on by the Russian government in the last few years. Masha is also on one of these lists. Each list has its own complex rules and potential consequences, for the people on the lists and for their family members who live in Russia. (28 minutes)

By Masha Gessen; Produced by Nancy Updike

Song:

“Do Not Shoot” by Zemfira (radio only) & “Things You Left Behind” by The Nails (podcast only)