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Fight #5: Bucha

Nadia tells the story of her father, Alex, who lives near Bucha, and how differently he and she view the Russian atrocities there. (10 minutes)

Prologue

Host Ira Glass plays recordings of a woman named Katia in Kyiv, dealing with the quotidian challenges of life — like taking the dog out to pee — in the middle of the war. (7 minutes)We found out about Katia from the podcast Vice News Reports, a show with a lot of great reporting on the war in Ukraine, plus stories that are unfolding all over the world.

Act One: Yevgenia and Her Neighbors

As Kyiv empties out, Ukrainian photographer Yevgenia Belorusets documents her interactions with those who stayed behind. (15 minutes)Her diaries were published by ISOLARII.

Act Three: Alyona and Oleg

Reporter Ashley Cleek talks to one Russian protestor in the middle of re-evaluating one of her oldest friendships. (15 minutes)

Act Two: Zoo Unto Others

Sean Cole speaks to Washington Post reporter Siobhan O’Grady about her visit to the zoo in Kyiv.

Prologue

Late at night on the evening Russia invaded Ukraine, Ira talks to two people who escaped to Lviv, near the Polish border: a woman we call Natalie, and the Ukraine Correspondent for The Economist, Richard Ensor. Natalie’s harrowing story about escaping Kyiv is not the sort of war story that makes you think, "I can't imagine what it'd be like to go through that.” In fact it’s just the opposite.